top top on wet board mftops ev 23 $20r

[lunarphase]

This hand baffled me I don't think we can fold flop but can we fold turn obv if call turn there's so much in the pot that can't fold river.

Full Tilt Poker Game #29003960219: MiniFTOPS Event #23 (209598973), Table 426 - 1700/3400 Ante 400 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:46:07 ET - 2011/03/13
Seat 1: matze_widi (118,936)
Seat 2: rafalpl8 (42,472)
Seat 4: MeNoCareMeAllin (157,873)
Seat 5: Rorio (155,051)
Seat 6: qjuice14 (181,422)
Seat 7: sharkgus (125,059)
Seat 8: EmjustgetPwn (63,329)
Seat 9: lunarphase (189,759)
matze_widi antes 400
rafalpl8 antes 400
MeNoCareMeAllin antes 400
Rorio antes 400
qjuice14 antes 400
sharkgus antes 400
EmjustgetPwn antes 400
lunarphase antes 400
qjuice14 posts the small blind of 1,700
sharkgus posts the big blind of 3,400
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lunarphase [Qc Ah]
EmjustgetPwn folds
lunarphase raises to 7,500
matze_widi folds
rafalpl8 folds
MeNoCareMeAllin has 15 seconds left to act
MeNoCareMeAllin folds
Rorio calls 7,500
qjuice14 folds
sharkgus folds
*** FLOP *** [Qs 4c Tc]
lunarphase bets 14,500
Rorio has 15 seconds left to act
Rorio raises to 32,196
lunarphase calls 17,696
*** TURN *** [Qs 4c Tc] [6c]
lunarphase checks
eazzy_lee sits down
Rorio has 15 seconds left to act
Rorio bets 37,692

[ramster]

If you are thinking you cant, call - fold the river, you might as well jam the pot here

Personally i would be folding here with the near min raise pre flop he could have come along with anything and you still got enough behind to do some damage

Its a tough one and i think its a case of you're damned if you do and damned if you dont

[lunarphase]

Yeah he's either raising a flush draw str8 draw or a set on the flop so logically there is nothing I can beat unless he's taking a weird bluffing line

[alby_00]

With no previous info this is a tough spot. I`d would have to relay on what I had seen him do previously in order to make this decion. With no info I would have to think I was beat by a flush or set and fold and live to fight another day. Am all in call would leave you with around 7-8 bb and that is not a desirable place to be at this stage in the tourney.

[UIIIU]

I would prolly lean towards fold only thing you can really beat and a possible hand would be like kq or a complete bluff and the way the hand played out it didnt really seem like he was pushing too hard to get you off and with that board and a pre flop raise he would have to give you credit that you atleast got a piece and didnt airball unless hes putting you on AK. His hand might not of been there on the flop tho personally I think he turned the k or j high flush just seems too much of a value bet on the turn and he didnt want to give you a free card if you had the A