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Old 05-27-2009, 09:07 PM
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down $1400 in 3 weeks between live and online just has been a fckin nightmare 5 yrs playing daily since i was like 15 and i think this is the darkest its ever gotten the cards really have got to get there heads out of there asses and obey the fcking statistics soon or i might have to be checked into a mental institute

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Old 05-29-2009, 12:36 PM
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Oh no that does suck! Hang in there!:
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Old 05-29-2009, 07:38 PM
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Do you think you are doing anything different ? Playing looser since you were up and winning ? Or maybe you are loosing to some of the same people and they have figured something out about your game over time ? So if thats the case maybe you should be doing some things different ? I'm confused - post some examples and the rest of us fish can post what we would do and then you can do the opposite and no doubt get back on the winning side! Seriously we can all probably benefit from some examples and analysis - surely there is someone out there that knows the right answers - and its not 42.
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Old 05-31-2009, 10:14 PM
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ya island thats what im trying to figure out if im doing anything different and ive been reviewing all my sessions afterwards and it seems im just getting hit with these tough decisions that are close to 50/50 and always choosing the wrong move. Ill post all my big cash game pots recently and try to explain what i was thinking and see if you have any input or anyone else has anything to say. I have seen some hands where i had been obv. tilting but for the most part i feel ive been playing decent

well heres all my pots over $10 recently (win or lose) going from most recent to oldest

https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...ash=1481142776

(lost) personally i believe i played this hand best i could

https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...ash=1480927514

(lost) This one baffles me how he calls this to river

https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...ash=1481122934

(lost) This one i should have prolly been able to get away from he was a tight player i should have put him on an over pair once he re raised my bet but i foolishy paid off his trips

https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...ash=1480963581

(lost) this one was tough and looking back a prolly should have played the hand differently pre flop and when the turn came down. I let u guys decide what would have worked best

https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...ash=1454924568

(lost) this one was pretty dumb i was on pretty bad tilt but this guy had been raising any 2 and figured i could just take the pot with a push

https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...ash=1481170877

(won) pretty happy with how the hand played out

https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...ash=1454862609

(won) another hand im satisfied with

https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...ash=1449428867

(lost) a little upsetting

https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...ash=1449399461

(won) tough to be mad at this hand

https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...ash=1449399461

(lost) lot of ppl in the hand giving my flush draw value, not knowing at the time my draw was dead

https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...ash=1448029661

(lost) this hand was pretty brutal and i cant say i would of played it differently

https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...ash=1448137871

(lost) this has happened to me 3x this week all with ak vs ak hurts alot

https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...ash=1448108984

(lost) just my luck

https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...ash=1448097291

(lost) this one could have been avoided but really i raise pre i didnt put him on the 2 thought he had like an a9

https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...ash=1447992558

(win) kings hold up lucky me

https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...ash=1447964497

(lost) really didnt believe he hit his id think he would have checked and re raised me had he hit it that hard considering i throw out alot of continuation bets


well those are the big hands of my last 9 sessions which lengths have gone from avg. of 1k hands per session to about 150 cause i cant sit at a table for over an hour without getting absolutely destroyed lately. Anyways thats only like a total of 1k hands between all the 9 sessions the whole downstreak has been close to 15k hands with hands pretty similar to these

some a bit worse and some were played poorly but heres just a little look
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Old 06-01-2009, 12:06 AM
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Your playing 25c/50c which is my graveyard since I tend to move up after winning for awhile on 5c/10c but not before I have a big enough br so I run into losing streaks like this and can't recover and have to start over lower. So you won't hurt my feelings if you ignore all I have to say about 25c/50c - lol. So br is the main thing since your game is pretty solid. If you have got the br to last through a bad streak like this you should be ok - since the bad streaks are inevitable - I think most Ive read reccomend at least $400 to play 25c/50c. You are obviously playing TAG by the book. You might look at how many times you are not giving enough credit to re-raises and losing and see if thats a leak and start giving a little more credit more often and get out (not always just more then this sample of hands shows) to save chips for better spots. Also you are out of position on a few of these hands but still playing very aggresively with dangerous boards so you might check that for a leak and throttle back a little when playing out of position or maybe its more the dangerous boards. I would think If you don't throttle back aggresion with dangerous boards eventually it has to bite you. Like they say lose small pots and win big ones. Go back to basic fundamentals until things turn around. Just my quick two cents for now. Very interested in how those smarter then me reply. Great post!
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Old 06-01-2009, 04:18 PM
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Ya ur right about not giving ppl credit on hands i find myself doing it all the time whether its low limit cash or sngs just some of the bets seem very weak by opponents and i feel i can get them off the hand but definitely unwaranted aggression is one of my main flaws.

Now BR i have the br before i cashed out the majority of it, i was fairly comfortable 6-8 tabling with $1500 and up always with huds open from pt, was actually right at the amount i had set to move up limits right before i hit this little rough patch i just cant sit at 1 table anymore just goes too slow and feels like wasting time.

Now for out of position plays Im not sure about that i usually find myself playing weak hands out of position from only the bb and dont usually play the aggressor with them. Now if i do raise in early or mid position and id say 90% of the time throw a c bet regardless of the flop just to see where i stand and hopefully take down all the small uncontested pots the accumulate over time and should theoretically be one of the main aspect of my game that generates the consistency although not working as of late and getting too involved with these hands that should be 1 bet and done with them.

I thank you for your input and i always like going over my hands a bunch of times so posting them was no biggie

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Old 06-01-2009, 06:34 PM
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One other thing to check for is cheating. I do not know exactly how to check for that other then look for repeating names in your losing sessions which it looks like you could easily do with your logging. This is online afterall, and you play enough volume at decent enough stakes you would be easy to target for some unscrupulous types.
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Old 06-02-2009, 09:58 PM
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Just a few very basic thoughts......you play long enough your going to hit some bad stretches of road. The real secret to playing this game and its rarely discussed is knowing where you belong.

If anyone reads these and needs clarification this means finding the level where you are going to be most successfull. Limit, Pot Limit, No Limit, and Tounraments are all different animals. What is the proper monetary limit and at what site do you belong? Which game do you truly play better than the competition? This does not mean what do you enjoy playing the most.

It is typical to assume that as you move up in stakes you are going to play against superior opposition and that you need to build the proper bankroll at lower levels in order to graduate. If you play at certain levels at certain sites you are playing bingo not poker.

It is always the case where when your running bad the advice is to play thru it. This is truly crap. Its like running a race and spraining your ankle. You can drop out and mend or tuff it out and end up messing up your knee and hip along with the ankle. If you make your starts more scarce you will appreciate them more.

Last but not least if you are multitabling cut down the number of tables until you start winning.
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:31 AM
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Excellent points Island and kard. . You seem to be playing a NL ring game, at times, like you are in final 3 or 4 of a tourney and at other times like you are playing limit holdem. Islandtimes' assessment of your game is spot on - fix the leaks - which from the examples you provided seems to be not giving credit to the other players ( start taking notes on them). At low levels, players like to shove allin and hope for the best if they think they have the nuts. At higher levels, the reverse betting patterns kicks in and palyer's play for value. It is not only the money you win that helps your bankroll, but the hands where you save one or two bets on a speculative hand. This philosophy may reduce the number of big wins, but it will also reduce the number of big losses.
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