Im done

[FreedomFighter]

Gl to you all with this stupid scamen online bs..Im done with it..its always the same shit over and over..AP/UB is the worst of them..but there all a joke..i play both online and real life and yes bad beats are apart of it all but you cant tell me that theres fishing shit going on in the online poker world..SCAM plain and simple so im not puting anymore of my hard earned money into a scaming site so gl and im out. :THE ONLINE POKER SCAM.

[jsawe]

I'm getting the impression you are not overly pleased with online gaming. Am I correct?

[JenniferNL]

I'm kinda of lost here too? Online scamming bs?

[UIIIU]

yup they are rigged just for the hell of it billion dollar companies just say hey im gonna make fish catch more online because that would be funny. Use some god dam logic and dont even give me that extra 10% in rake because of action flops its simply untrue and really you should be looking at your game if you cant win and not putting the blame on someone else. You win live how often are you playing and where you are playing those are the two huge things. Playing against drunk 15 yr olds is a lot different than sitting down at a 1/2 nl table online. Lastly with all the tracking thats going on any kind of discrepancy in the rooms RNG would be easily uncovered.

[UIIIU]

ya well online casinos your playing against the house and they can make a shit load more if they rig it and testing it would be harder than looking at a basic RNG aligorithm or whatever. Now looking at there BJ i have lost a very good amount going on ridiculous streaks which ive never seen live but poker Ive also gone on rediculous streaks there but really it would make no sense to rig poker for a few extra bux in rake. Since all my bad runs there usually happen on tournies they are making 0$ extra if they do have it rigged and risking there company regardless how likely they are to be caught. I would say if there is a problem its not intentional and its just the fact that computers are not able to be 100% random. They come dam close but they will always need to follow an algorithm that re arranges cards with a certain set code. With that said they are still random enough for a good player to make lots of money

[jsawe]

I think I explained this before in another thread, but will do it again.
With the possible exception of Craps - all casino games favour the house. Does this mean they are rigged - not necessarily. Here is the basic principal using slots:

A player sits down with $100. Most machines are setup up to provide either a 90 or 95% return. I will use 90 as the math is easier.

After X amount of time the player has lost 10% and has $90
After 2x amount of time the player is down to $81

This goes on until the player is broke. However, the system is designed that the ulitity (enjoyment) derived from playing equals the amount lost. Built into the sytem is the occasion winning payout. The casino owners know most players will re-invest their winnings and lose. That's how you build a city in the desert - taking little bits of money from lots of people.

While 10 reds in a row is something like 4000 to 1 (an estmate including the two green numbers) it is similiar to flipping a coin, While you expect a 50/50 split between heads and tails over a long series of tosses, there is no guarantee of any signal outcome oe limited series of outcomes.

In other words, there is no need to rig the games - the odds provided already determine the result.

Routlette is another casino game where the odds are clearly stacked in favour of the house. The only way to beat these games is not to play them.

As a side note, Faro was the only game that did not favour the house - its why it is no longer offered.

[jsawe]

Perhaps I didn't explain myself very well. The "house percentage" that is the slightly favourable odds the casino enjoys on every game means over the long run the players can not win. If I offered to flip a fair coin - each time you won I gave you $10 and each time you lost you gave me $11 dollars - you would probably tell me no. Even if I sweetened the deal and said every time you get 6 in a row I will pay you a forty dollar bonus and everytime you get 10 in a row a $1000 bonus - you would probably say no. Yet every day people line up under similiar circumstances to give their money away. My point is - keep out of casinos unless playing poker. You were correct all these games are "rigged," not in the sense they are fixed and are cheating - they have simply created gambling conditions where the player over the long term can not win.

[JenniferNL]

Well the house is always going to be on top unless you just know when to quit! I lost over 200.00 on blackjack came back and won 250.00 and got the hell out. After that I sent AP an email to turn BJ and the Casinos option off. Best thing I have ever done!

[UIIIU]

yes casino games the house will always have an edge but even if they did rig it how would you know considering every time you lose probability goes down but it can never get to 0.0000000000000% regardless of how many times u play the game

[FreedomFighter]

yeah lol all that math looks good..dont really understand it..i dont play the casino part..never did get into it due to this whole house thing..but as far as poker goes..I MUST learn to walk away when i get tilted to the point im playing to fast..focus is gone cause i just want to get back what iv lost in a bad beat..once that happends its just a downward spiral and everything looks to be working aginst me but the fact of the matter is...Hi my name is Kevin...and Im a poker junkie. lol ILL NEVER STOP..just take a few days to re group and hit it agine.