The standard Play Is?

[kardmania]

Lamb tourney

1500 remain
150% median chip stack
BB AK diamonds

Two all ins in front of me. If I lose I will be down to under 4000 chips from 12,500

Is the proper move to call or fold?

[UIIIU]

any info on other players and did the second guy to shove have more or less than the first guy and blind level?

[kardmania]

the 2nd guy did have the first guy covered and in retrospect did seem to be a tad aggressive

however, not enough hands with these players to derive solid evidence
under 10 hands at this table

[UIIIU]

well i would really be worried about the second guy, no doubt about it he has a hand now id prolly fold and im gonna tell ya why. Now the first guy shoving for so much range prolly ak-aq or 1010-AA now you say he was pretty aggro so maybe extend it to aj and maybe down to 88 but still the majority of hands are flips and there are hands in his range that dominate u. Now the second guy shoving I dont like what i would put him on id give him credit here for Ak or AA-JJ where at best ur a flip and 2/5 of the time u will be dominated not odds i would really be looking for. But with this said this is a pretty conservative approach i take with very little info and freeroll and micros tend to bite u in the ass using these standardized ranges. I would also take where the tourny is at into consideration. The earlier it is the less inclined i would be to call and vice versa

[ram1962]

How much was the original all in's stack? If the second all in's stack was huge in comparison, I would think that he can't have a hand like AA or KK and is simply trying to isolate the player. He could very well have a hand like UIIIU indicates as low as AJ or medium pair.

Early in a tournament, I would call, but nearer to the bubble I'd fold with AK against two players.

Now if I could just learn to listen to that little voice in real situations. LOL

[kardmania]

We are in the money. Any read on player tendencies is based on very damn little...10 hands prox at this table. This from the top of my head but close.
blinds 400/800
Player 1 stack 3500
player 2 stack 8000
my stack 12500

[jsawe]

You didn't mention the blinds (or I missed it). If the blinds are still relatively small, there is really no point to gamble. Even if only one of them has a pp you are about 40% to win, no matter what the other one has. The worst case scenario is if one also has AK - then your odds drop to 7%.

however is the blinds are really large then it might be worth the gamble you would be getting 13000 for 8500- your big blind plus the SB and nay antes. In this case your odds might equal or exceed 2 to 1 which warrants a call unless you are fairly sure one has AA,

[TeUnit]

Unless you had a read that the other 2 players were wild monkeys

you have enuf chips

you have ak which to me makes it a race at best.....

assume one player has aqo and the other one has TT....you are behind the TT and the AQ is taking away one of your outs

gl at the tables,

T

[TeUnit]

with villian stack sizes they should be getting it in lighter than the range i originally assumed(especially if there were antes)

it would also be kinda nice to know the payout structure

[islandtime2]

Originally Posted by kardmania

Lamb tourney

1500 remain
150% median chip stack
BB AK diamonds

Two all ins in front of me. If I lose I will be down to under 4000 chips from 12,500

Is the proper move to call or fold?

For me this would be a toss up - either way is justified - but I would lean towards calling. If you have 1500 folks remaining you are going to have to win with your good hands in big pots eventually or you will be out anyway. This would be a nice pot to win and enable you to withstand some of the bad beats coming. If you lose it you are not completely out and not much worse off in my scheme of things - you still have to win some big pots to get anywhere. To go down swinging early in these marathons is not such a bad thing - better then wasting 6+hrs to either just be short of the money or only win your entry back. IMHO.